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== THIS GUIDE HAS CHEAP BUILDS (will have some late game ones latter) ==
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== About the guide ==
== About the guide ==
I am making this because there is no other guides and people ask on Discord if there is a Full Support (FS) guide every 2 days.
I am making this because there is no other guides and people ask on Discord if there is a Full Support (FS) guide every now and then.


Here you will find builds on the cheaper side. Maybe I/someone else will bring a more end game build. (probably not me, as I haven't tested other stuff yet and most likely won't because the builds in this guide are sufficient for basically any map)  
Here you will find builds on the cheaper side. Maybe I/someone else will bring a more end game build. (probably not me, as I haven't tested other stuff yet and most likely won't because the builds in this guide are sufficient for basically any map)  


=== What is a FS Archbishop? ===
This is supposed to be more of a educational guide as you can mix and match different equipment according to your budget.
 
No, don't follow this guide if Cardinal is you first and only class. This build is supposed to play around other people so you won't be able to do stuff by yourself.
 
=== What is a FS Cardinal? ===
You basically buff everyone and don't die. You can tank most places as you have resistances, high HP and %MaxHP healing with {{#skill:2050}} / {{#skill:5269}}
You basically buff everyone and don't die. You can tank most places as you have resistances, high HP and %MaxHP healing with {{#skill:2050}} / {{#skill:5269}}


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=== Consumables ===
=== Consumables ===
In places like Constellation Tower/Depth2, you will probably need:
- {{#item:23204}} for DEF/MDEF
- {{#item:23204}} for DEF/MDEF


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- {{#item:12684}} for ASPD (probably not)
- {{#item:12684}} for ASPD (probably not)
- {{#item:12710}} for movement speed
- {{#item:6316}} We take care of everyone, but who takes care of us?
- {{#item:717}} people may get annoyed if you don't have these
- {{#item:607}} for desperate times
- {{#item:523}} for {{#skill:68}}


If you are lazy like me:
If you are lazy like me:
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=== Some Stats ===
=== Some Stats ===
Most of the stats from the next table are not REALLY necessary. You can have a little bit less and be fine. If you go to places with high damage I recommend using {{#item:23475}} or {{#item:50035}} so your {{#skill:5268}} doesn't get interrupted.
Most of the stats from the next table are NOT REALLY necessary. You can have a little bit less and be fine. If you go to places with high damage and don't have instant cast, I recommend using {{#item:23475}} or {{#item:50035}} so your {{#skill:5268}} doesn't get interrupted.
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|-
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using {{#skill:5280}} / {{#skill:5282}} / {{#skill:5281}}
using {{#skill:5280}} / {{#skill:5282}} / {{#skill:5281}}
|-
|-
|Variable Cast Time (VCT)
|Variable Cast Time (%VCT)
|100%
|100%
|It will help you if you don't want to use {{#item:23475}} or {{#item:50035}} every time in dangerous places.
|It will help you if you don't want to use {{#item:23475}} or {{#item:50035}} every time in dangerous places.
|-
|Variable Cast Time (Stat VCT)
|530 points
|An alternative for %VCT. For that you should use the following equation: 530 = Dex*2 + Int. Like %VCT this is easily achievable, but the cost is higher as you will probably need {{#item:24340}}/{{#item:24339}} combo.
|-
|-
|After Cast Delay (ACD)
|After Cast Delay (ACD)
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|INT
|INT
|90 or 120
|90 or 120
|Primary?
|Primary
|For {{#item:19439}} %VCT reduction and some MDEF.
|For {{#item:19439}} %VCT reduction and some MDEF.
|-
|-
|DEX
|DEX
|1
|1 or 90-120
|Useless
|Useless or Primary
|You will have Instant Cast with %VCT. No need putting points in here
|If you go for %VCT ignore this stat. If you go for stat VCT put points here.
|-
|-
|LUK
|LUK
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|Helps with Curse status. You need to have at least 100 combined (base+extra) (need confirmation) or have 0 LUK (Some cards subtract LUK). If you have the patience to use {{#skill:34}} every time, ignore this stat.
|Helps with Curse status. You need to have at least 100 combined (base+extra) (need confirmation) or have 0 LUK (Some cards subtract LUK). If you have the patience to use {{#skill:34}} every time, ignore this stat.
|}
|}
=== Traits ===
{| class="wikitable"
|-
!Trait
!Points
!Note
|-
|POW
|0
|No
|-
|STA
|100
|RES to tank more
|-
|WIS
|100
|MRES to tank more
|-
|SPL
|0
|No
|-
|CON
|0
|No
|-
|CRT
|Rest
|More Healing
|}
=== Skills ===
WIP


== Equipments ==
== Equipments ==
For now I have 2 builds for you. First one is the main build which is more generic and second one is more specific for [[Constellation Tower]], but can be used anywhere (you have to be more careful in end game places like Depth 1/2).  
For now I have 2 builds for you. First one is the main build which is more generic and second one is more specific for [[Constellation Tower]], but can be used anywhere (you have to be more careful in end game places like Depth 1/2).  


As you will see, some equipment/enchantment values will be a bit vague/loose. I wrote it that way, because you will have to balance, mainly, ASPD and %VCT. So if, for example, you get a good %VCT enchant in an equipment, you can get another ASPD equipment/enchantment.
As you will see, some equipment/enchantment values will be a bit vague/loose. I wrote it that way, because you will have to balance, mainly, ASPD and %VCT. So if you get a good %VCT enchant in an equipment, you can get another ASPD equipment/enchantment/card.


=== Main build ===
=== Main Build ===
{|class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width: 100%"
{|class="wikitable mw-collapsible" style="width: 100%"
|-
|-
!Slot
!Slot
!Equipment
!Equipment
!Description
!Enchantment
!Enchantment
!Note
!Note
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|Headgear (Top)
|Headgear (Top)
| +10 {{#item:19480}}
| +10 {{#item:19480}}
|{{#itemDesc:19480}}
|{{#item:29105}}
|{{#item:29105}}


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|Obtainable from [[Old Glast Heim Challenge Mode]]
|Obtainable from [[Old Glast Heim Challenge Mode]]
Most important is {{#item:29105}} as it gives lots of HP and DEF/MDEF.  
Most important is {{#item:29105}} as it gives lots of HP and DEF/MDEF.  
I have {{#item:29679}} and {{#item:4700}} in mine lul.  
I have {{#item:29679}} and {{#item:4700}} on mine lul.  
|-
|-
|Headgear (Middle)
|Headgear (Middle)
|{{#item:400002}}
|{{#item:400002}}
|{{#itemDesc:400002}}
|
|ACD 4~6%
* %ACD
 
* %ACD
|Obtainable from [[Amicitia]]
|Obtainable from [[Amicitia]]
You can enchant it with {{#item:100009}}, which can be bought at [[Muzaszir]]
You can enchant it with {{#item:100009}}, which can be bought at [[Muzaszir]]
I have 3% on mine and I'm missing 1% for the 94%, pls send help.  
 
You will probably get the rest of your %ACD here.
|-
|-
|Headgear (Low)
|Headgear (Low)
|{{#item:19439}}
|{{#item:19439}}
|{{#itemDesc:19439}}
|
|
|Obtainable from [[Bioresearch Laboratory]]'s MVP (Usually cheap)
|Obtainable from [[Bioresearch Laboratory]]'s MVP (Usually cheap)
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|Armor
|Armor
| +9 {{#item:15399}}
| +9 {{#item:15399}}
|{{#itemDesc:15399}}


|{{#item:310078}}
|{{#item:310078}}
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|Weapon
|Weapon
| +11 {{#item:16099}}
| +11 {{#item:16099}}
|{{#itemDesc:16099}}
|
|%VCT or %Heal Effectiveness
* %VCT or  
 
* %Heal Effectiveness
|Obtainable from {{#navi:einbech|151|251}}
|Obtainable from {{#navi:einbech|151|251}}
Gives 10% VCT and 20% ACD!


You can follow this [[Einbech_Enchants|page]] to enchant it.
You can follow this [[Einbech_Enchants|page]] to enchant it.


Can give up to 20% VCT! If you have enough %VCT, you can get %Heal Effectiveness or just skip enchanting.
Enchant can give up to 20% VCT! If you have enough %VCT, you can get %Heal Effectiveness or just skip enchanting.
|-
|-
|Shield
|Shield
| +11 {{#item:460018}}
| +11 {{#item:460018}}
|{{#itemDesc:460018}}
|{{#item:29010}}
|{{#item:29010}}


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|Garment
|Garment
| +10 {{#item:20749}}
| +10 {{#item:20749}}
|{{#itemDesc:20749}}
|
|
|Base version ({{#item:20749}}) obtainable from [[Bio 5: The Bed of Honor (Nightmare Biolab)]]'s MVPs.
|Base version ({{#item:20748}}) obtainable from [[Bio 5: The Bed of Honor (Nightmare Biolab)]]'s MVPs.


You have to transform it into the slotted version. (transformation process in the same page)
You have to transform it into the slotted version. (transformation process in the same page)
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|-
|-
|Shoes
|Shoes
| +11[C] {{#item:470094}}
| +11 [C] {{#item:470094}}
|{{#itemDesc:470094}}
|Don't even mind looking
|Don't even mind looking
|Base version {{#item:22171}} from [[Board_Quests#Instance_Board_Quests|Doil]] or [[Bioresearch_Laboratory]]'s MVP.
|Base version {{#item:22171}} from [[Board_Quests#Instance_Board_Quests|Doil]] or [[Bioresearch_Laboratory]]'s MVP.
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|Accessory (Right)
|Accessory (Right)
|{{#item:32249}} or {{#item:32248}}
|{{#item:32249}} or {{#item:32248}}
|{{#itemDesc:32249}}
|
|
|There are 4 possible combinations. See what you need between %VCT and ASPD and choose.
|There are 4 possible combinations. See what you need between %VCT and ASPD and choose.
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|Accessory (Left)
|Accessory (Left)
|{{#item:32251}} or {{#item:32250}}
|{{#item:32251}} or {{#item:32250}}
|{{#itemDesc:32251}}
|
|
|There are 4 possible combinations. See what you need between %VCT and ASPD and choose.
|There are 4 possible combinations. See what you need between %VCT and ASPD and choose.


All possible combos give %ACD and FCT.
All possible combos give %ACD and FCT.
|}
Total stats for this build without enchants:
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!Equipment
!%VCT
!%ACD
!FCT
|-
|
|
|
|
|-
|
|
|
|
|-
|Total
|
|
|
|}
|}


=== Alternative build (WIP) ===
=== Alternative Build ===
{|class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width: 100%"
{|class="wikitable mw-collapsible" style="width: 100%"
|-
|-
!Slot
!Slot
!Equipment
!Equipment
!Description
!Enchantment
!Enchantment
!Note
!Note
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|Headgear (Top)
|Headgear (Top)
| +10 {{#item:19480}}
| +10 {{#item:19480}}
|{{#itemDesc:19480}}
|{{#item:29105}}
|{{#item:29105}}


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|Headgear (Middle)
|Headgear (Middle)
|{{#item:400002}}
|{{#item:400002}}
|{{#itemDesc:400002}}
|
|ACD 4~6%
* %ACD
 
* %ACD
|Obtainable from [[Amicitia]]
|Obtainable from [[Amicitia]]
You can enchant it with {{#item:100009}}, which can be bought at [[Muzaszir]]
You can enchant it with {{#item:100009}}, which can be bought at [[Muzaszir]]
I have 3% on mine and I'm missing 1% for the 94%, pls send help.  
 
You will probably get the rest of your %ACD here.
|-
|-
|Headgear (Low)
|Headgear (Low)
|{{#item:19439}}
|{{#item:420017}}
 
|{{#item:4814}}
|{{#itemDesc:19439}}
|Obtainable from [[Fall_of_Glastheim|Fall of Glastheim - Hard Mode]]
|
|Obtainable from [[Bioresearch Laboratory]]'s MVP (Usually cheap)


Combos with {{#item:20749}}
Enchant process in the same page.


Gives lots of %VCT and %ACD
Only get this if necessary for %VCT.
|-
|-
|Armor
|Armor
| +9 {{#item:15399}}
| +11 {{#item:15393}}
|{{#itemDesc:15399}}
|
* %HP


|{{#item:310078}}
* Doesn't matter


{{#item:4900}} or {{#item:4747}}
* %Dragon Race Damage Reduction
|Obtainable from [[Abyss_Lake#How_to_obtain|Abyss Lake]]


{{#item:4900}} or {{#item:4747}}
Combos with {{#item:22208}} and {{#item:20946}}.
|Obtainable from [[Odin#Odin's_Past_Dungeon|Odin's Past]]


You can follow this [[Odin%27s_Enchant|page]] to enchant it.
Gives lots of %ACD, ASPD, %VCT and some FCT.
 
IIRC %HP is better, but does it really matter?
|-
|-
|Weapon
|Weapon
| +11 {{#item:16099}}
| +11 {{#item:16099}}
|{{#itemDesc:16099}}
|
|%VCT or %Heal Effectiveness
* %VCT or
 
* %Heal Effectiveness
|Obtainable from {{#navi:einbech|151|251}}
|Obtainable from {{#navi:einbech|151|251}}


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|Shield
|Shield
| +11 {{#item:460018}}
| +11 {{#item:460018}}
|{{#itemDesc:460018}}
|{{#item:29010}}
|{{#item:29010}}


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|-
|-
|Garment
|Garment
| +10 {{#item:20749}}
| +11 {{#item:20946}}
|{{#itemDesc:20749}}
|
|
|Base version ({{#item:20749}}) obtainable from [[Bio 5: The Bed of Honor (Nightmare Biolab)]]'s MVPs.
* %HP


You have to transform it into the slotted version. (transformation process in the same page)
* Doesn't matter


Gives good ASPD, some neutral resist.
* %Dragon Race Damage Reduction
|Obtainable from [[Abyss_Lake#How_to_obtain|Abyss Lake]]
|-
|-
|Shoes
|Shoes
| +11[C] {{#item:470094}}
| +11 {{#item:22208}}
|{{#itemDesc:470094}}
|
|Don't even mind looking
* %HP
|Base version {{#item:22171}} from [[Board_Quests#Instance_Board_Quests|Doil]] or [[Bioresearch_Laboratory]]'s MVP.


You have to transform 2 times. {{#item:22171}} into {{#item:22238}} into {{#item:470094}}. You can see this process [[Ancient_Hero_/_Great_Hero_/_Hero-LT_Boots|here]].
* Doesn't matter


This will give you good FCT, really good resistances and some %VCT/%ACD.
* %Dragon Race Damage Reduction
|Obtainable from [[Abyss_Lake#How_to_obtain|Abyss Lake]]
|-
|-
|Accessory (Right)
|Accessory (Right)
|{{#item:32249}} or {{#item:32248}}
|{{#item:32249}} or {{#item:32248}}
|{{#itemDesc:32249}}
|
|
|There are 4 possible combinations. See what you need between %VCT and ASPD and choose.
|There are 4 possible combinations. See what you need between %VCT and ASPD and choose.
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|Accessory (Left)
|Accessory (Left)
|{{#item:32251}} or {{#item:32250}}
|{{#item:32251}} or {{#item:32250}}
|{{#itemDesc:32251}}
|
|
|There are 4 possible combinations. See what you need between %VCT and ASPD and choose.
|There are 4 possible combinations. See what you need between %VCT and ASPD and choose.


All possible combos give %ACD and FCT.
All possible combos give %ACD and FCT.
|}
Total stats for this build without enchants:
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!Equipment
!%VCT
!%ACD
!FCT
|-
|
|
|
|
|-
|
|
|
|
|-
|Total
|
|
|
|}
=== Secret Build (WIP) ===
I hate when I say "I'll use {{#skill:5278}}" and people just ignore, go away and then complain. That's why I started thinking about this build.
{|class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width: 100%"
|-
!Slot
!Equipment
!Description
!Enchantment
!Note
|-
|Headgear (Top)
|
|
|
|
|-
|Headgear (Middle)
|
|
|
|
|-
|Headgear (Low)
|
|
|
|
|-
|Armor
|
|
|
|
|-
|Weapon
|
|
|
|
|-
|Shield
|
|
|
|
|-
|Garment
|
|
|
|
|-
|Shoes
|
|
|
|
|-
|Accessory (Right)
|
|
|
|
|-
|Accessory (Left)
|
|
|
|
|}
Total stats for this build without enchants:
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!Equipment
!%VCT
!%ACD
!FCT
|-
|
|
|
|
|-
|
|
|
|
|-
|Total
|
|
|
|}
=== Not Even my Final Form Build (WIP) ===
I start to imagine what a real full FS build would be... then i remember there are another 6 builds from different classes that I already planned on building... all at the same time...
{|class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width: 100%"
|-
!Slot
!Equipment
!Description
!Enchantment
!Note
|-
|Headgear (Top)
|
|
|
|
|-
|Headgear (Middle)
|
|
|
|
|-
|Headgear (Low)
|
|
|
|
|-
|Armor
|
|
|
|
|-
|Weapon
|
|
|
|
|-
|Shield
|
|
|
|
|-
|Garment
|
|
|
|
|-
|Shoes
|
|
|
|
|-
|Accessory (Right)
|
|
|
|
|-
|Accessory (Left)
|
|
|
|
|}
Total stats for this build without enchants:
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!Equipment
!%VCT
!%ACD
!FCT
|-
|
|
|
|
|-
|
|
|
|
|-
|Total
|
|
|
|}
|}


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=== Cards ===
=== Cards ===
Didn't too much attention when i was making this build. If you have a recommendation you can DM me.
Didn't give too much attention when i was making this build. If you have a recommendation you can DM me.


{|class="wikitable"
{|class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width: 100%"
|-
|-
!Equipment
!Equipment
!Card
!Card
!Description
!Note
!Note
|-
|-
|Headgear (Top)
|rowspan="3"|Headgear (Top)
| {{#item:300174}}
| {{#item:300174}}
| MORE HP! Expensive because it is hard to farm. Will give alternatives later.
| {{#itemDesc:300174}}
| MORE HP! Expensive because it is hard to farm.
|-
|-
|Headgear (Middle)
| {{#item:4582}}
| {{#itemDesc:4582}}
| MORE HP! Combos with {{#item:27351}}. Loses to 2x {{#item:300174}} by 5% and some %Elemental Resist
|-
| {{#item:27396}}
| {{#itemDesc:27396}}
| Some %ACD
|-
|rowspan="3"|Headgear (Middle)
| {{#item:300174}}
| {{#item:300174}}
| MORE HP! Expensive because it is hard to farm. Will give alternatives later.
| {{#itemDesc:300174}}
| MORE HP! Expensive because it is hard to farm.
|-
|-
|Armor
| {{#item:27351}}
| {{#itemDesc:27351}}
| MORE HP! Combos with {{#item:4582}}. Loses to 2x {{#item:300174}} by 5% and some %Elemental Resist
|-
| {{#item:27396}}
| {{#itemDesc:27396}}
| Some %ACD
|-
|rowspan="3"|Armor
| {{#item:27114}}
| {{#item:27114}}
| MORE HP!and some DEF
| {{#itemDesc:27114}}
| MORE HP! and some DEF
|-
| {{#item:300254}}
| {{#itemDesc:300254}}
| MORE HP! and some DEF
|-
| {{#item:300376}}
| {{#itemDesc:300376}}
| MORE HP! and some DEF and RES
|-
|rowspan="4"|Weapon
| {{#item:27308}}
| {{#itemDesc:27308}}
| %Heal Effectiveness
|-
| {{#item:31021}}
| {{#itemDesc:31021}}
| ASPD
|-
| {{#item:4608}}
| {{#itemDesc:4608}}
| %Size Damage Reduction combo with {{#item:4609}}. Choose between this and {{#item:27385}} combo. Whatever is cheaper.
|-
| {{#item:27384}}
| {{#itemDesc:27384}}
| %Size Damage Reduction combo with {{#item:27385}}. Choose between this and {{#item:4609}} combo. Whatever is cheaper.
|-
|rowspan="7"| Shield
| {{#item:4609}}
| {{#itemDesc:4609}}
| %Size Damage Reduction combo with {{#item:4608}}. Choose between this and {{#item:27385}} combo. Whatever is cheaper.
|-
| {{#item:27385}}
| {{#itemDesc:27385}}
| %Size Damage Reduction combo with {{#item:27384}}. Choose between this and {{#item:4609}} combo. Whatever is cheaper.
|-
| {{#item:4253}}
| {{#itemDesc:4253}}
| %Boss Damage Reduction
|-
|-
|Weapon
| {{#item:300230}}
| {{#item:27308}} {{#item:31021}} {{#item:4608}}
| {{#itemDesc:300230}}
| %Heal Effectiveness, ASPD and %Size Damage Reduction combo with {{#item:4609}}
| MORE HP!
|-
| {{#item:300233}}
| {{#itemDesc:300233}}
| MORE HP!
|-
| {{#item:300465}}
| {{#itemDesc:300465}}
| Some HP, %Size Damage Reduction and some DEF/RES. It frees up 1 weapon card slot. Watch out for LUK values (Curse resistance)
|-
| {{#item:300379}}
| {{#itemDesc:300379}}
| Objectively better than {{#item:27385}} / {{#item:4609}} combo, but needs shield refinement to be +12.


Choose what you need.
%Size Damage Reduction and %Race Damage Reduction and frees up 1 weapon card slot.
|-
|-
|Shield
|rowspan="2"|Garment
|{{#item:4609}} or {{#item:4253}}
| {{#item:4646}}
|%Size Damage Reduction combo with {{#item:4608}} or %Boss Damage Reduction
| {{#itemDesc:4646}}
| MORE HP!
|-
| {{#item:27292}}
| {{#itemDesc:27292}}
| Mostly used for %ACD
|-
|-
|Garment
|rowspan="2"|Shoes
|{{#item:4646}}
| {{#item:4381}}
|MORE HP!
| {{#itemDesc:4381}}
| MORE HP!
|-
|-
|Shoes
| any 17.2 10% HP card
|{{#item:4381}}
like {{#item:300081}}
|MORE HP!
| {{#itemDesc:300081}}
| MORE HP!
|-
|-
|Accessory (Right)
|Accessory (Right)
|{{#item:300076}}
| {{#item:300076}}
|MORE HP!
or any 17.2 10% HP card
| {{#itemDesc:300076}}
| MORE HP!
|-
|-
|Accessory (Left)
|rowspan="2"|Accessory (Left)
|{{#item:27343}}
| {{#item:27343}}
|Some %ACD
| {{#itemDesc:27343}}
| Some %ACD
|-
| {{#item:300076}}
or any 17.2 10% HP card
| {{#itemDesc:300076}}
| MORE HP!
|}
|}


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Wouldn't bother getting one
Wouldn't bother getting one
* {{#item:9140}}
* {{#item:9140}}
== What everyone should know, but sometimes go unnoticed ==
Shout out to Madame Celery for the good general tips guide for the MuhRO server ([[Madame Celery's Guide to MuhRO]])
There you can find general equipment progression, level up spots suggestions, what to farm and where, what is a Refinement Ticket and how to get it, some notable cards that I definitely didn't look to make the card section of this guide.
You can use the refinement tickets in the {{#item:470094}} transformation and refinement of basically all equipment from the builds in this guide.
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